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    <description>Design systems are the systems of tools, processes and practices that we use to create digital products, like websites and applications. But can design systems play a role in perpetuating systemic harm? Can they do anything to mitigate it?
In this series, design systems consultant and podcast host Amy Hupe interviews guests about their experiences of design systems, systemic exclusion, and how we can work to design more inclusive experiences.
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    <itunes:author>Amy Hupe</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>Design systems are the systems of tools, processes and practices that we use to create digital products, like websites and applications. But can design systems play a role in perpetuating systemic harm? Can they do anything to mitigate it?
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  <itunes:subtitle>To round off the series, I’m speaking to Sheryl Cababa, Chief Design Officer at Substantial, lecturer, and author of her, Closing the Loop: Systems thinking for designers.

In the episode, Sheryl and I talk about how our design work fits into the wider societal, economic and political systems around us and she shares tools and frameworks for making the invisible, visible.</itunes:subtitle>
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In the episode, Sheryl and I talk about how our design work fits into the wider societal, economic and political systems around us and she shares tools and frameworks for making the invisible, visible.
Episode Links
Sheryl’s blog on Medium (https://medium.com/@SherylCababa)
Sheryl’s LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sherylcababa/)
Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for Designers, by Sheryl Cababa (https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/systems-thinking-for-designers/) (Listeners of Systems of Harm can get 15% off the purchase price with the code: cababa-soh) 
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    <![CDATA[<p>To round off the series, I’m speaking to Sheryl Cababa, Chief Design Officer at Substantial, lecturer, and author of her, Closing the Loop: Systems thinking for designers.</p>

<p>In the episode, Sheryl and I talk about how our design work fits into the wider societal, economic and political systems around us and she shares tools and frameworks for making the invisible, visible.</p>

<p>Episode Links<br>
<a href="https://medium.com/@SherylCababa" rel="nofollow">Sheryl’s blog on Medium</a><br>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sherylcababa/" rel="nofollow">Sheryl’s LinkedIn</a><br>
<a href="https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/systems-thinking-for-designers/" rel="nofollow">Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for Designers, by Sheryl Cababa</a> (Listeners of Systems of Harm can get 15% off the purchase price with the code: cababa-soh)</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>To round off the series, I’m speaking to Sheryl Cababa, Chief Design Officer at Substantial, lecturer, and author of her, Closing the Loop: Systems thinking for designers.</p>

<p>In the episode, Sheryl and I talk about how our design work fits into the wider societal, economic and political systems around us and she shares tools and frameworks for making the invisible, visible.</p>

<p>Episode Links<br>
<a href="https://medium.com/@SherylCababa" rel="nofollow">Sheryl’s blog on Medium</a><br>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sherylcababa/" rel="nofollow">Sheryl’s LinkedIn</a><br>
<a href="https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/systems-thinking-for-designers/" rel="nofollow">Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for Designers, by Sheryl Cababa</a> (Listeners of Systems of Harm can get 15% off the purchase price with the code: cababa-soh)</p>]]>
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