web01.fireside.fm Sat, 23 May 2026 15:20:44 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Systems of Harm - Episodes Tagged with “Burnout” https://systems-of-harm.fireside.fm/tags/burnout Thu, 06 Nov 2025 00:00:00 +0000 Design systems are the systems of tools, processes and practices that we use to create digital products, like websites and applications. But can design systems play a role in perpetuating systemic harm? Can they do anything to mitigate it? In this series, design systems consultant and podcast host Amy Hupe interviews guests about their experiences of design systems, systemic exclusion, and how we can work to design more inclusive experiences. en-gb episodic Design systems are the systems of tools, processes and practices that we use to create digital products, like websites and applications. But can design systems play a role in perpetuating systemic harm? Can they do anything to mitigate it? Amy Hupe Design systems are the systems of tools, processes and practices that we use to create digital products, like websites and applications. But can design systems play a role in perpetuating systemic harm? Can they do anything to mitigate it? In this series, design systems consultant and podcast host Amy Hupe interviews guests about their experiences of design systems, systemic exclusion, and how we can work to design more inclusive experiences. yes Systems of Harm, Amy Hupe, Design systems; Inclusive design, UX design, Web development, UI design, Systems thinking, Technology, Web design, Amy Hupe amy.l.hupe@gmail.com Design Systems and burnout with Sara Wachter-Boettcher https://systems-of-harm.fireside.fm/ep6-sara-wachter-boettcher 3c7c4094-a1ef-4231-9eb4-c8935c4e2288 Thu, 06 Nov 2025 00:00:00 +0000 Amy Hupe full 2 Amy Hupe To round off the series, I’m speaking to coach, speaker and author of Technically Wrong and Design for Real Life, Sara Wachter-Boettcher. Sara and I talk about why those of us working on design systems are so vulnerable to burnout and what we can do to prevent it. We talk about the importance of living your values, advocating for what’s right, and - crucially - knowing when to quit. 53:08 yes <p>To round off the series, I’m speaking to coach, speaker and author of Technically Wrong and Design for Real Life, Sara Wachter-Boettcher. Sara and I talk about why those of us working on design systems are so vulnerable to burnout and what we can do to prevent it. We talk about the importance of living your values, advocating for what’s right, and - crucially - knowing when to quit.</p> <p>Episode links<br> <a href="https://www.activevoicehq.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.activevoicehq.com/</a> <br> Sara on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraboettcher/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraboettcher/</a> <br> Design for Real Life: <a href="https://abookapart.com/products/design-for-real-life.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://abookapart.com/products/design-for-real-life.html</a> <br> Technically Wrong: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/technically-wrong-sexist-apps-biased-algorithms-and-other-threats-of-toxic-tech-sara-wachter-boettcher/11186625?ean=9780393356045&amp;next=t&amp;source=IndieBound&amp;ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sarawb.com%2F" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://bookshop.org/p/books/technically-wrong-sexist-apps-biased-algorithms-and-other-threats-of-toxic-tech-sara-wachter-boettcher/11186625?ean=9780393356045&amp;amp;next=t&amp;amp;source=IndieBound&amp;amp;ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sarawb.com%2F</a> <br> Content Everywhere: <a href="https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/content-everywhere/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/content-everywhere/</a> </p> Systems of Harm, Amy Hupe, Design systems, inclusion, accessibility, Web development, UI design, Systems thinking, Technology, Web design, burnout To round off the series, I’m speaking to coach, speaker and author of Technically Wrong and Design for Real Life, Sara Wachter-Boettcher. Sara and I talk about why those of us working on design systems are so vulnerable to burnout and what we can do to prevent it. We talk about the importance of living your values, advocating for what’s right, and - crucially - knowing when to quit.

Episode links
https://www.activevoicehq.com/
Sara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraboettcher/
Design for Real Life: https://abookapart.com/products/design-for-real-life.html
Technically Wrong: https://bookshop.org/p/books/technically-wrong-sexist-apps-biased-algorithms-and-other-threats-of-toxic-tech-sara-wachter-boettcher/11186625?ean=9780393356045&next=t&source=IndieBound&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sarawb.com%2F
Content Everywhere: https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/content-everywhere/

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Episode links
https://www.activevoicehq.com/
Sara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraboettcher/
Design for Real Life: https://abookapart.com/products/design-for-real-life.html
Technically Wrong: https://bookshop.org/p/books/technically-wrong-sexist-apps-biased-algorithms-and-other-threats-of-toxic-tech-sara-wachter-boettcher/11186625?ean=9780393356045&next=t&source=IndieBound&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sarawb.com%2F
Content Everywhere: https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/content-everywhere/

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